Wednesday, March 22, 2006

 

Ecademy Thomas Power Leak Emails BlackStar Scam

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The BlackStar Messages



NB. Use of bold is not part of the original text, but has been used to emphasise specific points of this document. Use of upper case is original.



Thomas Power said on Sun, 10-Oct-04 6:08pm

J, G,

Can you check out marketbanker.com as Linkedin are using them to sell adlink words just like Google on their site. They are highly ranked on Google too, something we have missed I suspect.

This wouldn't be happening unless there was good money in it as you know Reid.

Roger's team and his network all use Linkedin because it's easy, they all find Ecademy far too advanced for them. The workshops have helped hugely but the site still needs that Google front end toolbar we discussed at the last brainstorm.

I want Blackstar to be the Private Club of Clubs because at 100 quid a month it needs to be exceptional. Can you consider unique features that are ONLY available to our 400 members in there and nowhere else so there is a word of mouth, mystery element to sit along my personal introductions service and mentoring service. I would like us to reach the 400 members within18 months of launch and make the membership transferrable (resaleble) to a waiting list so Blackstars cannot lose money just like Roger's system.

In 2006 the price will rise to 200 per month because of increased value and so on as below.

Roger has 470 Life Members paying 250 sterling a month but he throws in an annual 5 day Bali conference, monthly networking events in 10 countries, life coaching courses, personality profiling for wealth management, books, a magazine to promote the members businesses, personal introductions and referrals leading to matchmaking. All very clever and a good package.

What do you think?

Can you replace his physical services (very time and people intensive) for software based services otherwise 400 people will eat me alive in the first year.

Through Linkedin I can now find the most connected person in every company in the world so finding connections won't be that hard for Blackstars

TP
cc: Julian Bond


Notes: Seems the 'secret' of BlackStar is for Thomas to connect people using LinkedIn. Genius. He doesn't really “know” many of the people he is supposedly connected to. He is charging people £3000 ($5500) for the privilege of him looking up other people using LinkedIn.


Thomas Power said on Mon, 11-Oct-04 2:19am

G,

This is the detail on what I can now see:

The business needs to do 62k a month to cover JB, you and me at the full salaries we seek.

25k (biz & JB) + 12K (you) + 25k (me). This is based on our respective cost bases and not our expertise or work rate.

PN Goldstar generates 20k a month.

This means we need 42k a month extra.

400 Blackstars at 100 quid a month would get this remaining 42k BUT according to Roger it will take from Jan 2005 to August 2006 to recruit that 400 as he only gets 20 a month.

This means in 2005 our revenue is:

4,000 Goldstars up from 2700 at the end of 2004 thus 400k in revenue
240 Blackstars would generate a further 176k revenue
leaving us 90k short of that target 62k a month above

That last 90k comes from 7,500 members in 2005 paying 12 quid for the year for the newly re-packaged Greenstar you plan to launch Dec 1st. I don't know what you see this as but with 75000 members in 2005 only 7500 maximum will buy it.

So 2005:

400k current Goldstar - 4,000 customers
176k Blackstar - 240 customers
90k Greenstar - 7,500 customers

TP becomes Mr Blackstar and won't contribute to Gold or Green other than compering events. I won't attend local events unless requested by a Blackstar and I will only answer Blackstar email and phone calls so I can spend more time with Pen our relationship is suffering as you are now aware.

What will Blackstar deliver:

1) Stakeholding in membership. Members can transfer or resell their membership at the FULL value they have paid at that time. Yea1 1200, Year 2 2400, Year 5 6000. There is no loss of value to members just like Roger's model.

2) Personal introductions to target accounts and individuals by TP.

3) Personal tuition by TP on how to make money from coaching, speaking, non-exec'ing, connecting business people and so on. Effectively this is Executive Life Coaching. Oh yuck you cry.

4) Advanced Software tools inside the Blackstar private club. I REALLY your help and JBs here to see what new magic you can deliver here inside the Club. Also payment needs to be at this club level.

5) Private Events among Blackstars similar to your Academy of CEOs.

That's a rough shape on what I can see.

Can you please comment in this place so I can ponder your view and what you are starting to see.

TP
cc: Penny Power


Notes: Yes, that is £25k per month, or £300k per year. For looking on LinkedIn. Also note the differences between messages to Glenn, above, and Julian, below. Some may say that it is cruel and heartless to refer to the above statement about Penny. I would refer those people to Thomas's statement on “Sat, 16-Oct-04 1:49am”.


Thomas Power said on Mon, 11-Oct-04 2:26am

J,

2005 should look something like this:

400k current Goldstar - 4,000 customers
176k Blackstar - 240 customers
90k Greenstar - 7,500 customers

TP becomes Mr Blackstar and won't contribute to Gold or Green other than compering events. I won't attend local events unless requested by a Blackstar and I will only answer Blackstar email and phone calls so I can spend more time with Pen.

What will Blackstar deliver:

1) Stakeholding in membership. Members can transfer or resell their membership at the FULL value they have paid at that time. Yea1 1200, Year 2 2400, Year 5 6000. There is no loss of value to members just like Roger's model. Roger can only recruit 20 a month, so 400 Blackstars will take 18 months. Greenstar thus must pick up the slack.

2) Personal introductions to target accounts and individuals by TP.

3) Personal tuition by TP on how to make money from coaching, speaking, non-exec'ing, connecting business people and so on. Effectively this is Executive Life Coaching. Oh yuck you cry.

4) Advanced Software tools inside the Blackstar private club. I REALLY need your help and GWs here to see what new magic you can deliver here inside the Club. Also payment needs to be at this club level can you do that? Most members in Asia want to collect their own payments at Club level.

5) Private Events among Blackstars similar to your Academy of CEOs.

That's a rough shape on what I can see.

Can you please comment in this place so I can ponder your view and what you are starting to see from my emails various and your own thoughts.

T
cc: Julian Bond


Thomas Power said on Wed, 13-Oct-04 12:27pm

My answers to your Answers:

Glenn Watkins said on Tue, 12-Oct-04 7:21pm

T

My answers below:

***G,

You need to look forward to 2005 and project.
By close of 2005 we will have 4000 GoldStar Power Networkers up from 2700 at the close of 2004, which means we can also have 400 BlackStars. Thus 10% paying 10 times the price, Roger's formula.
So don't be confused with the numbers simply look forward.

[GW] I'm not confused by that number, its the other other one you quoted re Std members (paying £12), you said we will have 7,500, I thought we would have more based on Rogers formula at the cheaper end...?

YES YOU ARE RIGHT, IT SHOULD BE 10* 4,000 OR 40,000, BUT WITH 75,000 MEMBERS IS THIS POSSIBLE?

Agreed on your point re: income. It is a function of cost base not performance and they be should equalised over time.
[GW] I understand, we will need to peg our income so it is equal until we hit the 12K per month, we then need to acrue mine whilst you draw the additional you need. On that note, Penny has mentioned becoming a full Director of the business again, it might be the right time to do this and then pay Penny the income (which of course would be right anyway!) once available so you don't pay as much tax and your household gets the income you need. I would then take bonuses over time to equalise (or part there of and start to pay Sophia which is long overdue!). Suggest we clarify this at the next Board meeting so we are all clear moving forward.

THIS SOUNDS GREAT.

Agree we are nearly there, I am very close to finalising offer, letter and service offering although I am not sure you can deliver advanced software tools for BlackStar by November 1st can you? Should we wait until later?

[GW] No I don't think we should wait, I think we can launch as long as we are clear on what we are delivering on day one (Nov 1st), this might not include advanced site tools.....rather a roadmap and process to write what is required once you have had feedback from the Black Star members, in the meantime you do the club, meetings, newsletters, etc.

The important thing is we have announced Black Star already - and will be announcing the std membership at the end of this month also.....we must get the messaging right on both to make it fly, once we have it live and commited we will make it work (as we will *have to)

OK I HAVE PUT UP AN AUNT SALLY ON THE CLUB BUT NOT DISCLOSED ANY PRICING, I HAVE BLOGGED TO KEEP THE PRE-HYPE TEASE GOING, YOU/WE MUST FINALISE THE RIGHT PRICE WITH ROGER ONCE YOU GET HIS PRICE GROWTH MODEL.

Glenn
cc: Penny Power


Sent to Thomas Power on Wed, 13-Oct-04 3:07pm

T

Good stuff - suggets we meet ASAP (on the Friday or Monday after you return to finalise final model and pricing).

You've had a lot of interest, the Black Star club views so far are:
Total page views: 497
Total members: 212

The wording at the bottom of the club home page I think needs to change to:

If you wish to be considerd for BlackStar Membership please email blackstar@ecademy.com

I think you need to make more of the fact that membership to Black Star (BS for short!) means lots of time saved by getting filtered introductions etc, like the life time PowerNetworker but this will mean we'll lose revenue when they sign up..?

Add the word "Continous" or similiar to the sentance:

Personal tuition and training on how to make money from connecting business people through networking, events, transaction fees, public speaking, consulting and simply asking better questions.

We need the Ecademy Logo on the wealth Dynamics page to tie us in.

I think asking for quarterly payments upfront is the right approach - it will keep some of the crap out and help us right now with cash flow.

Do we actually put a black star against the name when online? Not sure about this....I think discreet is better (Brian Chernett has committed to sign-up so have I have sold the first black star customer? )

Glenn
cc: Penny Power


Notes: “It will keep some of the crap out”. The BlackStar page states that
“Candidates are not accepted simply on their ability to pay.”.



Thomas Power said on Thu, 14-Oct-04 11:53am

Hello my wee wife sorry I can't get through on my phone.

John says call Orange on 150 and quote password "*****" but of course I can't phone 150 to ask them what's happening?

Have rested today and got my energy back for this conference www.rogerhamilton.com/EBS/

The BlackStar Life Membership plan is developing and I am slowly teasing the message into the membership, see my club.

400 places in 2005 at around 1200 to 1800 sterling not quite sure yet because of the expenses.

Then 250 places a year thereafter 2006 until 2012 with the price rising by around 600 a year so that existing members make money if they wish to resell. Only one of Roger's members has ever sold because each year he puts in more value and adds 250 more members so they don't want to leave in case they miss out.

This provides the income for yours, Glenn's and my salaries.

Roger still believes we are giving far too much for free as our revenue is not growing in line with our membership but staying static. I have checked and it is static.

He thinks we need to restict views of profiles "to read more become a Power Networker", "to see more or read more become a Power Networker and so on". I am sure Glenn is working on this already for the revised GreenStar launch December 1st.

It's amazing how much value we offer and so little pay which he concludes is because we offer "enough for free". The downside of course is our members provide all our referral marketing now over 155,000 referrals. What brand gets that?

Love you millions and miss you millions.

T XXXX
cc: Penny Power


Thomas Power said on Sat, 16-Oct-04 1:49am

G,

I would like Greenstar $10 to commence on the sending or receiving of the first message. Target 40,000 customers in 2005. DO NOT make the mistake of reducing 10 connections to 5 this is an error on our part as 90% of people do not understand our system to get to even 5 connections and we MUST replicate Friendsreunited, first message out or first message in you have to pay in their case 7.50 sterling or $10. FU have proved this works lets copy it.

GoldStar continues to kick in at 10 connections. Target 4,000 customers in 2005.

BlackStar target 400 customers in 2005.

This strategy is do or die in my view as otherwise the business will have be sold in 2005 if the above does not work.

WE MUST MAKE THEM PAY for our sakes and survival and not worry about their whingeing and emotions.

TP
cc: Penny Power





Thomas Power said on Sat, 16-Oct-04 8:33am

G,

Suggested pricing for BlackStar Life Membership:

2005 1200 sterling - 400 places commencing November 1st 2004.
2006 2000 sterling - 250 places
2007 3000 sterling - 250 places
2008 4000 sterling - 250 places
2009 5000 sterling - 250 places
2010 6000 sterling - 200 places
2011 7000 sterling - 200 places
2012 8000 sterling - 200 places

A total of 2000 life memberships over 7 years. Life memberships are resaleable to incoming buyers but must be held for 12 month contracts.

This is an exact copy of Roger's approach.

Let me know your thoughts.

TP
cc: Penny Power


Thomas Power said on Sun, 17-Oct-04 1:56am

G, P,

More logic for our Friday Board meeting:

Let's assume Goldstar belongs to Julian and supports him only. The current PN status doing circa 20k a month.

Let's assume BlackStar belongs to Penny and I and supports us only. Let's assume our income and costs mean say 400k sterling thus we need at least 333 BlackStars to pay over their 1200 quid in the first year. So that's Penny and Thomas done.

Let's assume GreenStar belongs to Sophia and Glenn and supports you only. Let's assume your income and costs means say 200k sterling thus you either need 33,000 members to pay 6 quid or 16,500 members to pay 12 quid. That's Sophia and Glenn done.

That's 2005 done with 3 families supported. Right now nothing else matters.

The reason I find this useful is that it could be that GoldStar NEVER grows and will carry on doing 20k a month forever. Despite member growth there is no change in its performance which means the actual churn is 100% in reality. It supports Julian and the site and that's it. Nothing more. Re-examine GoldStar revenue stats for the whole of 2004 to date. Be suspicious, I am.

Now it's time to create two new products, a dear one (Black) and a cheap one (Green) with the sole purpose of supporting the other two families.

Glenn cannot go upmarket and I cannot go downmarket because of our respective images.

Love you both hugely had a great time thinking here and being trained by Roger. If Roger had capital (which he doesn't, it's all image and myth in reality) he could be a billionaire. But his approach is very superior to mine. Our expertise is our knowledge of software and systems with people online, which he has none, thus his interest in Ecademy.

More for you both to ponder for Friday.

TP
cc: Penny Power





Notes: Income and costs of £400k. Blimey. Creating Black and Green for “supporting the other two families” is not really a business plan.
Interesting that he admits that Roger's scheme is “all image and myth”, yet this is what he is copying.


Thomas Power said on Wed, 20-Oct-04 6:08am

G,

Most of BlackStar is already in place for November 1st launch. This is stealth in action, every step of the way.

Launch price of 1500 sterling with 20% commission available to TN leaders and Active Club leaders who become BlackStars. Check the small print carefully.

Roger is my coach and club co-moderator. He has big plans for this worldwide. He has big plans for everything.

It is important that Ecademy (you and JB) effectively becomes his outsourced IT dept (likely $10-20k a month if done properly) as he modest knowledge of systems but has a product design, creation and packaging mind I have only experienced with Alan Sugar and observed with Michael Dell, Steve Ballmer and Bill Gates. If he knew software he would certainly be a global player. He has 4 grade "A" A levels and a first class degree from Trinity College Cambridge with Isaac Newton honours only given to genius standard. I think you understand what I mean.

I support your 25/15 sterling launch message price. Roger believes that GoldStar PN should be rising by at least 10% a year.

2005 is about 400/4000/40000.

400 Blacks. 4000 Golds. 40000 Greens or whatever colour you have chosen.

Next year is financial independence and peace of mind for us all ...can you feel the force coming our way at last?

T
cc: Penny Power


Notes: Roger Hamilton does not have “a first class degree from Trinity College Cambridge with Isaac Newton honours only given to genius standard.”. Cambridge Records state that he received a 2:2 in Architecture.


Sent to Thomas Power on Mon, 01-Nov-04 5:22pm

T

This has been posted on Ecademy Watch (and on links from our site are going to it), needless to say you CAN NOT TALK TO POWER NETWORKERS OR OTHER MEMBERS LIKE THIS.

Ignore them, say you'll come back to them but for fucks sake stop saying you won't talk to them unless they pay 2,500 as it will kill the PN subs and a lot of the goodwill YOU have made happen in the network - THINK please, you are in danger of undoing years of work with your current approach.

> uk.tribe.net/thread/f324...-e29e-49fd-8e9d-4ca5dfe7bd2d
> November 01, 2004 - 07:38 AM
> Ecademy Important News

> I joined ecademy a few months ago and became a poweruser at that time. I
> recently requested assistance from Thomas Power, Chairman of Ecademy.com and
> received the following response.

> "You need to become a BlackStar to talk with me."

> Upon researching what this meant, I learned that I must pay $4500.00 in order
> to communicate with the "POWER" people that I joined the network to meet in
> the first place. I find this to be unacceptable,unethical and false
> advertising, and would like to warn any of you of this SCAM by ecademy.com
> administrator money hounds.

Thought you might like to know.

cc: Penny Power



Notes: This post simply demonstrates how clueless Power is.


And this:
Quote:

Wealth Profiling

Many of you will have been pressured. "You must take the Wealth Profile test.". "You must pay within 24 hours.". All common tactics.

If you know Thomas, you don't need to take the Wealth Profile test. This email from Thomas to John Joint shows that John had already paid, and was already a BlackStar. He hadn't taken the Wealth Profile test. How do I know for sure? I used the Ticket No. and password in the following email. It doesn't let you use the same one twice. I took John Joint's test a week after this email.

From: Thomas Power [mailto:thomas.power@ecademy.com]
Sent: 15 February 2005 10:40
To: 'ecademy@jointcoaching.com'
Subject: RE: PAYMENT: BlackStar


John,

Great to have you with us.

Take your Wealth Profile test here:

www.rogerhamilton.com/wealthdynamics/

Ticket No Password

BS1382 45315 John Joint

Book into my diary here:

www.ecademy.com/module.php

Take your time to catch up with the debates.

Thomas Power




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Roger's Lies

Thomas Power told Glenn Watkins that Roger Hamilton has "a first class degree from Trinity College Cambridge with Isaac Newton honours only given to genius standard.".

I decided to check this, as it sounds like the sort of bull that snake oil salesmen tend to excrete.

Was suprised to find out that Roger does indeed have a degree in architecture from Trinity. Not a first though, and as for "Isaac Newton honours"... hahahaha. The email from the Records department says he got a 2:2.

So, is Roger lying to Thomas, or is Thomas lying to Glenn? I suspect the former, as Thomas seems to be completely in awe of Roger and would believe every word he said.

Dear (removed to protect my anonymity)

Roger James Hamilton of Trinity College

Further to your email of 10 February 2005, I am writing to confirm that the above named attended the University of Cambridge and was awarded the degree of Bachelor of Arts on 30 June 1989.

Cambridge University does not give overall classifications, so I have listed his results below for your information:

1987 Architecture Tripos, Part IA Class II, Division 2
Satisfied the Examiners in Studio Work
1988 Architecture Tripos, Part IB Class II, Division 2
Satisfied the Examiners in Studio Work
1989 Architecture Tripos, Part II Class II, Division 2

I hope that this information is sufficient for your purposes.

Yours sincerely

David McCarthy
Senior Records Assistant
Student Records & Statistics
University of Cambridge
10 Peas Hill
Cambridge
CB2 3PN

Tel: 01223 332309
Fax: 01223 760473
email: student.records@admin.cam.ac.uk

So who was lying to Whom? I confronted Thomas via Instant Messenger...

(20:50:12) Me : Thomas
(20:50:20) thomas : yes
(20:50:41) Me : Did you know that Roger Hamilton has been lying to you?
(20:50:50) thomas : what about?
(20:51:0 Me : Qualifications
(20:51:2 thomas : I don't know what his qualifications are?
(20:52:27) Me : So you've never told anyone that he has a "first class degree from Trinity College Cambridge with Isaac Newton honours only given to genius standard.".
(20:52:54) thomas : Never heard of such a thing, haven't a clue
(20:53:2 Me : hahaha... you should check what you say thomas
(20:53:43) thomas : why?
(20:54:12) Me : either Roger is lying to you, or you are lying to others... I know that by saying "Never heard of such a thing" you are lying to me
(20:54:37) thomas : so what
(20:54:51) Me : "Trusted" network. That whole trusted thing will come back to haunt you, Mr Power
(20:55:22) thomas : I don't think so xxxx, it is you who are haunted by Ecademy not me
(20:55:4 Me : Yeah, but I'm not the one about to have the whole thing collapse around them due to lies.
(20:56:16) thomas : you are a laugh xxxx I will give you that
(20:56:24) Me : Have fun Mr Power, while it lasts.
(20:56:35) thomas : Thank you
(20:56:41) Me : Just for the record... were you lying... or was Roger?
(20:57:0 thomas : he tells me he went to Cambridge
(20:57:1 thomas : are you saying he didn't?
(20:57:55) Me : I'm saying he doesn't have a "first class degree from Trinity College Cambridge with Isaac Newton honours only given to genius standard.".
(20:58:12) thomas : he says he does
(20:58:32) Me : You should check it. It is bullshit. How much of the rest is?
(20:59:03) thomas : I have known him for 10 years I like his content, it works
(20:59:31) Me : Will be public knowledge soon that he is a liar. Thanks for confirming
(20:59:5 thomas : Thanks as ever xxxx

As you can see, Thomas lied at first, then backtracked when he knew he had been caught lying. Trouble is, I don't think that he knows that Roger is lying! Trusted Network in “Culture of lies” shocker.

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Roger's tactics

Have a look at this...

www.ritz-sun.com/wpy/index.php

It describes sales tactics seen by many a confidence trickster.

I copy the article below.

Roger Hamilton

Filed under: General— Richard S. Yu @ 11:48 pm

Oooh, this liar strikes again. I admit that this chap has some good points. He said that we must do what we want to do for our LIFE, not just for the sake of money. It is the path to success. I agree with that statement. He characterized people into 8 different categories: creator, star, supporter, deal maker, trader, accumulator, lord, and mechanics. He also gave reasons on famous and successful people on why they choose and become successful in their fields.

He also critisized people for being afraid to fail. There is no word for FAIL, and there should not be any exit plan. He also emphasized on the importance of TIME. Time is very important, so do not waste it in the wrong activity and people. Invest in the right way. Do no waste your life in “difficult” path, choose the “right” way.

OK, that’s enough for my compliment. At the end of the session, he asked the audience whether we want to become “RICH”. I find that most of the audience all bound-spell to money, so corrupted!!! However, I find that Hamilton is the most corrupted persons in the room, which is explained as follow:
1. All the audience are asked to go to the back of the room.
2. Hamilton says that whoever wants to continue this PATH, should come forward, as there are only 3 rows of seat available. He continues to speak that the ones sitting on them will get the training for FREE.
3. The rest are asked to go home.
4. When they are seated, he continues that actually only 12 persons are eligible to enjoy the previllege.
5. And they are “NOT FREE”, it is only $2000. However, if you are not satisfied, then money guarantee will apply.
6. He also explains that only $1000 needed after the discount. What an opportunity! I also gave free CDs, opportunity to have breakfast with me tommorow, and etc.
7. It is very cheap, he says. It is only $100 if divided by 12 months. So whoever is wiling, please go to the back of the room, and make payment.
8. The rest, who is not yet a convert, can talk to the “survivor” of last year’s event. By the way, this guy is shameless.
9. RICHARD leaves the room immediately. He realizes that ROGER HAMILTON is a compulsive liar.

Rendevous Hotel, level 2, room 2&3, 7pm

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